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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2001 2:53 pm Post subject:

Hi there gang!!! How are things going here at the Lit. Board? I haven't posted on this board in awhile, and feel quite bad since I was supposed print up a few good stories for the board. I've been away with college, and my home life in itself is a horror. That is going to show up in places in my short stories coming up soon. I have about 12 that I'm going unleash from the depths of my imagination. Haven't been that into books in recent months but I did manage to finish King's "Nightmares and Dreamscapes". It was overall a very good book. The Night Flier was the one that everyone was talking about, and it was great, just thought the end could have been better. As for my subject line, do any of you find mystery/horror novels to give you the chills, or is mystery still just on the outskirts of the great ring of horror. I just finished a talk in one of our classes about the signifigance horror plays in our society. For those of you not aware, some months ago there was a stabbing that took place not far from my old college in Pennsylvania, reports said that it was brought on by the movie "Valentine", which was a good book that I picked up recently. But I hope that everyone is doing well here, and I will catch you later. -Killer Klown Submitted By: Killer Klown

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2001 3:50 pm Post subject:

Hi there you lunatic murdering Bozo! Author of such killer clownish classics like "Down the South Line". Wasn't that you, my friend? I'll be looking for more "home horror" from you. Right now I'm not up to much of an indepth reply but I'll say that mystery and horror go very well hand in hand, since so many mysteries seem to have an A) dark heart or B) shocking resolution. This figures in a lot of fiction like Peter Straub's Mystery, James Ellroy's ultra tough The Black Dahlia and Tom Piccirilli's tour de force dark mystery Shards to name some prime examples. All in all, stories based around something unresolved are usually cream of the crop horror fiction if the respective authors know how to sock it in the right places. I will bring up a book soon that I finished just recently and think is one of the best novels I've read in this category for a long time. It's by an author that is probably most unanimously popular on this board, and he broke out in the mystery scene back in the early eighties. Does anyone already suspect who it is? Submitted By: Fenny

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 12:57 am Post subject:

Hey There KillerKlown! Glad to see you back. Yes, I think that there are a lot of great stories that blend mystery/horror. James Ellroy's LA QUARTET (THE BLACK DAHLIA, THE BIG NOWHERE, LA CONFIDENTIAL, WHITE JAZZ) is a perfect example. So are KOKO, MYSTERY and THE THROAT by Peter Straub. The movie "Lord Of Illusions" is another fun noir/horror. BY REASON OF INSANITY by Shane Stevens is another great one. RED DRAGON by Thomas Harris. If you ask me, there's not enough horror/mystery tales. Submitted By: Mr Self Affliction

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 1:51 pm Post subject:

Don't forget Primal Fear by Diehl. Also, I kind of consider Galilee by Barker a mystery, since the whole story is unraveling the mystery of these two epic families. Nightmare House by Douglas Clegg is kind of a mystery, disguised as a haunted house story. Submitted By: Deena

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 3:55 pm Post subject:

Deena, I didn't forget PRIMAL FEAR, I've just never read it. Or GALILEE. Or NIGHTMARE HOUSE. Now, don't go giving me that lecture. I know. I know. Submitted By: Mr Self Affliction

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 7:12 pm Post subject:

To put it a tad on the tip you could say life is a mystery and it scares the hell out of me, and that's why I read horror stories. Note, I'm not a nerve-wreck or anything but horror just seems to do it for me - all sorts! Oh yes, Deena, Galilee is a grand epic mystery. Also in big part because of the new narrative style Clive Barker ventured with in this novel. It sort of layered it out from a perspective that was but a small part of the epic mystery in charge. I wonder what comes next from Clive Barker...A sequel to Nightbreed (which I would just kill to see)...The Third Book Of The Art (follow-up to The Great and Secret Show and Everville), part two of Galilee (which I, again, can't wait for!) or something new? All I know is I'll be there, and I'll be waiting. Primal Fear by William Diehl? Hmm, interesting mentally short-listed Killer Klown mentioned "The Night Flier" from the Nightmares & Dreamscapes collection. It goes to show that "the original vampire tale" does still exist...oh yeah, and I was rather let down by the movie, but then again, the story in itself was never meant to bear a whole feature ("The Mangler" is another example). It was just dragged out too much and too long, I felt. My favourite from N&D is "Suffer the Little Children." Interesting you should mention real life social horror, KK. This story is very provocative in that it deals with kids getting shot at school. Something that has reared its ugly head on more than one occasion, sadly, in your part of the world. "Suffer the Little Children" is one of those sick-joke stories that originally was meant to be included in King's Nightshift but had to butt out in wake of "Grey Matter," I think it was. Another funny/ghastly tale. Submitted By: Fenny

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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 9:16 pm Post subject:

My favorite horror/mystery hybrid is THE CHURCH OF DEAD GIRLS by Stephen Dobyns. Submitted By: Eric

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2001 12:15 am Post subject:

Regarding NIGHTMARES & DREAMSCAPES: My favorite story in the collection would have to be the other vampire tale, "Popsy." I found that one to be delightfully twisted. "The Night Flier" would be my second favorite in the collection. It's funny, for a guy who's just sick and tired of vampires my two favorites in the collection would revolve around them. But you know what they say...no tired genres, just tired writers. Blah, blah, blah. Submitted By: Mr Self Affliction

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 4:46 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the wonderfully warm reception, all of you. It was really nice. =) Yes, Fenny, my friend, that was me that penned that story "Down the South Line", and I also penned "The Coven", and "The Depot". I am putting 2 stories on the board this weekend because if I don't let some of this work out, it may be published another way(like on the front page of the news). It's funny that you mentioned "The Black Dahlia" because the house in which I live in now, has that book in it. It was left here by the last person that lived here. I enjoyed in N&D most of the stories in there, and I thought that "Suffer The Little Children" has been the tops since I started reading it. "Popsy" was a very twisted story too. But I'd like to thank you all for your mentions, and I'm going to try to put those babies up as soon as I can. I've always thought that mystery, and horror, could fit together like a plug in a socket. It's all about taking a common mystery, and adding that little pinch of magic. Just a little something to make the story set your imagination on fire. Thanks for the info. -Killer Klown Submitted By: Killer Klown

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2001 11:54 pm Post subject:

Nightmares and Dreamscapes was a good collection... not as good as Night Shift, but still good. =) I agree that both "The Night Flier" and "Popsy" were 2 of the best in the book, but I think I my favorite in it was "You Know They've Got a Hell of a Band." I'd like to see them make a movie out of that one. =) Submitted By: OdicThief

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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2001 3:36 am Post subject:

OdicThief, I would say that "You Know They've Got A Hell of a Band" was my third favorite story in that collection. I just love that part when Buddy Holly's eyeballs fill with blood. That image has stuck with me ever since reading it. I still can't listen to a Holly song without seeing that image. Submitted By: Mr Self Affliction

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